The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 11: Love Heretic with Wendy Francisco

Our guest on this episode is the wonderfully transparent Wendy Francisco. As a singer and songwriter, Wendy has traveled the world performing concerts and, for many years, was very much a part of American evangelical culture. As she began to question long-held beliefs, she shared what she was learning and a community grew around her […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 10: Out of the Shadows with Karl Forehand

In this episode, I speak to former pastor and author Karl Forehand about his journey out of the shadows of his false self and into the light, what he learned about God through his relationships with his own children, and about his forthcoming book, “Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About The Father’s Heart”, which […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 09: Renewing Your Mind with Todd Vick

In this episode, we talk to author and former pastor Todd Vick about what it means to renew our minds, who does the renewing, and what that process might look like post deconstruction. You can follow Todd on Facebook.

June 2019 Update

Hello, friends! Before I say anything else, I want to say thank you so much for all of your support and encouragement! Your love and belief that I have something to add to the world keeps me going. I am so grateful for each one of you! As many of you already know, the no […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 08: Reconciling Prayer with the Uncontrolling Love of God with Mark Karris

In this episode, we talk with pastor, author, and licensed marriage and family therapist Mark Karris about what prayer might look like post deconstruction. Mark shares about his tragic childhood, the uncontrolling love of God, and whether or not miracles fit into his understanding of prayer. During our conversation, Mark mentions an article he wrote […]

Revolution Church Sunday Message: Lost & Found

Once a month, we have a worship gathering for friends and family of The Hope Center that we call Revolution Church. Today, I actually remembered to hit the record button for the first time in nearly two years. So here is a rough audio recording of the message from today’s gathering in which we talk […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 06: A Faith Worth Keeping with Brad Jersak

In this episode, I talk to author, theologian, and patristic scholar, Brad Jersak about hearing God, inner healing, a more beautiful gospel, the afterlife, finding community post deconstruction, areas where he struggles with Orthodox Church practice, and several books that he is currently working on-including a short story with “The Shack” author, William Paul Young. […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 04: Reconstructing Evangelicalism with Beau Hoffman

In this episode, I talk to friend and fellow spiritual seeker Beau Hoffman about navigating the shifting sands of deconstruction, following Jesus into reconstruction, and what it means to be evangelical today. Beau is a voice worth following on social media. You can find him on Facebook and Instagram.

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 03: From Inerrancy to Inspiration with Keith Giles

In Episode 03, we welcome back our first ever repeat guest, Jesus Unbound author Keith Giles, to discuss the journey from belief in the Bible as the inerrant Word of God to a belief that Jesus of Nazareth is the one and only Word of God. What does that mean for our faith? Where did […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 02: Living for a Living with Jamal Jivanjee

In this episode, we speak with author, podcaster, and life coach, Jamal Jivanjee, about moving from an economy of scarcity to an economy of love and service. We’re excited for you to listen to this episode and would love to read your thoughts in the comments below. Jamal’s latest book is Living for a Living. […]