The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 32: “The Church We Dream Of” Part 2 with Fr. Kenneth Tanner

On this episode, we continue our series on our hopes and dreams for the future of the church with pastor, writer, and creative force of nature Father Kenneth Tanner. Fr. Kenneth is the pastor at Church of the Holy Redeemer, a charismatic Episcopal congregation in Rochester Hills, Michigan. In our conversation, we discuss his spiritual […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 31: The Church We Dream Of (Part 1) with Eden Jersak

We all know the dark side of modern church life. Many have been hurt by it and have disengaged from it altogether. In episode 31, we are kicking off a new series on what the church can be. I’m speaking with some deep thinkers and theologians about the church they dream of and discussing how […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 30: Encounter the God of Unending Love with William Paul Young

It was an absolute honor to spend an hour in conversation with “The Shack” author William Paul Young discussing his spiritual journey, his thoughts on the modern church, why we’re terrified of a God who loves without condition, the role of Jesus in our faith, and shining light on some of the lies we believe […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 22: A Tale of Two Turneys Part 2 Open Table with Nat Turney

My guest this episode is musician, worship leader, and pastor Nat Turney. Nat Turney serves as lead pastor of Open Table Fellowship church in San Angelo, Tx where he resides with his wife of 28 years, Kimberly. He is the father of four grown children and a Papa to two amazing grandsons. Nat is passionate […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 21: A Tale of Two Turneys Part One with “The Unpastor” Jon Turney

My guest in this episode is musician, worship leader, and “unpastor” Jon Turney. ¬†We talk about Jon’s upbringing in the Foursquare church, why he left the church, and the freak accident that led him back to faith. Don’t miss part two of this series featuring Jon’s brother, Nat Turney! You can follow Jon’s posts on […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 20: Holy Spirit with Andrew Parks

This episode of the podcast features writer and theologian Andrew Parks sharing his personal experience with the Person and work of the Holy Spirit. Does Holy Spirit fill only those who meet certain requirements? What is the purpose of this filling? What is the role of Holy Spirit in our lives? Is there a certain […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 15: Prodigals Like Us with Andrew Parks and Beau Hoffman

In this episode, I sit down for a round table conversation with Andrew Parks and Beau Hoffman discussing the nature of God as revealed in Jesus’ parable of the prodigal son. Andrew Parks is a writer and entrepreneur. You can follow him on Facebook and Twitter. Beau Hoffman is an attorney, and theologian. You can […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 14: Rethinking Heresy with Eric Howell

In this brief episode, “The Podcast Doctor” Eric Howell shares his journey of moving from fear of hell to faith in God’s love. The good news: This is, by far, the best produced episode of the show so far. The bad news: It’s less than 9 minutes long. You can find Eric and The Podcast […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 13: Dispersing Fear with Love

And now, for something completely different… In this solo episode, Jason discusses the high price of living out of fear, transitioning to a life centered on love, what Jesus meant when He talked about “hell”, and more. Jason Elam is a former pastor, aspiring author, and podcaster. He is Brandi’s grateful husband and proud dad […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 12: Finding My Voice with Hannah Johnson

In this episode we talk to worship leader, blogger, and social work student, Hannah Johnson, about her faith journey as a preacher’s kid, life in the fishbowl, how going to ministry school at one of the fastest growing churches in America turned out differently than she had expected, and how she started to discover her […]