The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 22: A Tale of Two Turneys Part 2 Open Table with Nat Turney

My guest this episode is musician, worship leader, and pastor Nat Turney. Nat Turney serves as lead pastor of Open Table Fellowship church in San Angelo, Tx where he resides with his wife of 28 years, Kimberly. He is the father of four grown children and a Papa to two amazing grandsons. Nat is passionate […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 21: A Tale of Two Turneys Part One with “The Unpastor” Jon Turney

My guest in this episode is musician, worship leader, and “unpastor” Jon Turney. ¬†We talk about Jon’s upbringing in the Foursquare church, why he left the church, and the freak accident that led him back to faith. Don’t miss part two of this series featuring Jon’s brother, Nat Turney! You can follow Jon’s posts on […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 20: Holy Spirit with Andrew Parks

This episode of the podcast features writer and theologian Andrew Parks sharing his personal experience with the Person and work of the Holy Spirit. Does Holy Spirit fill only those who meet certain requirements? What is the purpose of this filling? What is the role of Holy Spirit in our lives? Is there a certain […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 15: Prodigals Like Us with Andrew Parks and Beau Hoffman

In this episode, I sit down for a round table conversation with Andrew Parks and Beau Hoffman discussing the nature of God as revealed in Jesus’ parable of the prodigal son. Andrew Parks is a writer and entrepreneur. You can follow him on Facebook and Twitter. Beau Hoffman is an attorney, and theologian. You can […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 14: Rethinking Heresy with Eric Howell

In this brief episode, “The Podcast Doctor” Eric Howell shares his journey of moving from fear of hell to faith in God’s love. The good news: This is, by far, the best produced episode of the show so far. The bad news: It’s less than 9 minutes long. You can find Eric and The Podcast […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 13: Dispersing Fear with Love

And now, for something completely different… In this solo episode, Jason discusses the high price of living out of fear, transitioning to a life centered on love, what Jesus meant when He talked about “hell”, and more. Jason Elam is a former pastor, aspiring author, and podcaster. He is Brandi’s grateful husband and proud dad […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 12: Finding My Voice with Hannah Johnson

In this episode we talk to worship leader, blogger, and social work student, Hannah Johnson, about her faith journey as a preacher’s kid, life in the fishbowl, how going to ministry school at one of the fastest growing churches in America turned out differently than she had expected, and how she started to discover her […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 11: Love Heretic with Wendy Francisco

Our guest on this episode is the wonderfully transparent Wendy Francisco. As a singer and songwriter, Wendy has traveled the world performing concerts and, for many years, was very much a part of American evangelical culture. As she began to question long-held beliefs, she shared what she was learning and a community grew around her […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 07: The Subversive Power of Loving Our Enemies with Andrew Parks

In this episode, we talk with writer and theologian Andrew Parks about his journey of faith, loss, and the subversive power of Jesus’ call to love our enemies. You can follow Andrew on Facebook and Twitter.

Revolution Church Sunday Message: Lost & Found

Once a month, we have a worship gathering for friends and family of The Hope Center that we call Revolution Church. Today, I actually remembered to hit the record button for the first time in nearly two years. So here is a rough audio recording of the message from today’s gathering in which we talk […]