The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 43: Oneness With God w/Kyle Butler

Episode 43 of the podcast features one of the most encouraging people I know-Kyle Butler! Listen here. Kyle got his start in ministry when he was just 13 years old. He was ordained at the age of 21. Five years later he was installed as the pastor of the church he grew up in. In […]

A Very Messy Message: If God is Good Then What Are We Saved From? Part 1

A common question I hear from folks escaping the grip of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment is, “If God is that good then what are we saved from?”. In an attempt to answer that important question, I’m recording a video series for our Patreon supporters and releasing the audio to all of you via […]

A Very Messy Message: A Starting Point to Peace

And now for something completely different… In this episode, I share some rough, unedited thoughts that have been percolating in my heart about learning to live at peace with God, ourselves, and the whole human family. I invite you to join me in praying the following benediction at the end: Creator of all Who keeps […]

A Prayer for Ragamuffins

I wrote the following prayer this morning after a time of reflection. I would love if you would pray it with me throughout this week. Creator of all Who keeps no record of wrongs Who points no finger in blame Who loves every member of the human family with scandalous love Teach me to see […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 30: Encounter the God of Unending Love with William Paul Young

It was an absolute honor to spend an hour in conversation with “The Shack” author William Paul Young discussing his spiritual journey, his thoughts on the modern church, why we’re terrified of a God who loves without condition, the role of Jesus in our faith, and shining light on some of the lies we believe […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 22: A Tale of Two Turneys Part 2 Open Table with Nat Turney

My guest this episode is musician, worship leader, and pastor Nat Turney. Nat Turney serves as lead pastor of Open Table Fellowship church in San Angelo, Tx where he resides with his wife of 28 years, Kimberly. He is the father of four grown children and a Papa to two amazing grandsons. Nat is passionate […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 14: Rethinking Heresy with Eric Howell

In this brief episode, “The Podcast Doctor” Eric Howell shares his journey of moving from fear of hell to faith in God’s love. The good news: This is, by far, the best produced episode of the show so far. The bad news: It’s less than 9 minutes long. You can find Eric and The Podcast […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 12: Finding My Voice with Hannah Johnson

In this episode we talk to worship leader, blogger, and social work student, Hannah Johnson, about her faith journey as a preacher’s kid, life in the fishbowl, how going to ministry school at one of the fastest growing churches in America turned out differently than she had expected, and how she started to discover her […]

Revolution Church Sunday Message: Lost & Found

Once a month, we have a worship gathering for friends and family of The Hope Center that we call Revolution Church. Today, I actually remembered to hit the record button for the first time in nearly two years. So here is a rough audio recording of the message from today’s gathering in which we talk […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 06: A Faith Worth Keeping with Brad Jersak

In this episode, I talk to author, theologian, and patristic scholar, Brad Jersak about hearing God, inner healing, a more beautiful gospel, the afterlife, finding community post deconstruction, areas where he struggles with Orthodox Church practice, and several books that he is currently working on-including a short story with “The Shack” author, William Paul Young. […]