The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 31: The Church We Dream Of (Part 1) with Eden Jersak

We all know the dark side of modern church life. Many have been hurt by it and have disengaged from it altogether. In episode 31, we are kicking off a new series on what the church can be. I’m speaking with some deep thinkers and theologians about the church they dream of and discussing how […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 28: “Finding My Voice” with Laura Forehand

We have just released episode 28 of the podcast featuring teacher and podcaster Laura Forehand. Laura is a second grade teacher in Tarkio, Missouri. She has three amazing grown children and two beautiful grandchildren. She was a pastor’s wife for 20 years, up until she and her husband both went through different journeys of deconstruction. […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 26: “Finding Sanctuary Within” with Meg Calvin

In this episode I speak to author and podcaster Meg Calvin about her faith journey, learning to recognize one’s own voice, finding peace within, and more. Meg’s wonderful book, “I Am My Own Sanctuary: How a Recovering Holy-Roller Found Healing and Power” is available this Friday by clicking here. You can get more info on […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 25: “The Redheaded Ragamuffin” with Michele Snyder

This episode features podcaster Michele Snyder. Michele is the host of “The Redheaded Ragamuffin” podcast. We talk about Michele’s journey escaping fundamentalism and learning to see God as a loving Father. You can find Michele’s website here. You can listen to Michele’s podcast here. Recent episodes feature bestselling authors Mary Demuth and Thomas Jay Oord. […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 24: “The God in My Closet” with Ben DeLong

In this episode I talk to Nazarene pastor and “There’s a God in My Closet” author, Ben DeLong. We talk about healing our destructive ideas about God and the damage they’ve done. You can learn more about Ben and his work on his website here. Purchase a copy of Ben’s powerful book here. You can […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 23: Reckless Faith with Elaine and Cody Johnston

On this episode we’re joined by young business owners and podcasters Cody and Elaine Johnston. We discuss each of their spiritual journeys, how they met, entrepreneurship, their three podcasts, and much more. You’re going to love these two! Visit Elaine and Cody’s website here. You can follow Elaine’s blog here. You can follow The Prodigal […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 22: A Tale of Two Turneys Part 2 Open Table with Nat Turney

My guest this episode is musician, worship leader, and pastor Nat Turney. Nat Turney serves as lead pastor of Open Table Fellowship church in San Angelo, Tx where he resides with his wife of 28 years, Kimberly. He is the father of four grown children and a Papa to two amazing grandsons. Nat is passionate […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 18: Staying in Church After Deconstruction with Doug Stewart

In this episode, I talk to TedX Presenter and Dale Carnagie Instructor Doug Stewart about his journey to a healthier faith and why he maintains his relationship with the church post deconstruction. Doug is the host of the thought provoking “I Am Not Your Pastor” podcast. Check it out wherever you listen to podcasts! Check […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 17: Experiencing Christ in Everyone with Dallas Verity

Episode 17 of the podcast is now available here. This episode features theologian and podcaster Dallas Verity discussing his fascinating life and learning to experience Christ in the most unlikely places. Dallas is a co-host of the Shipwreck Over Safety podcast which I highly recommend! You can connect with Dallas on Facebook and Instagram. You […]

Special Episode: When You Feel Like You Can’t Go On with Steve Austin

In the wake of the passing of Christian pastor and author Jarrid Wilson by suicide at age 30, I reached out to my friend, author, and self care expert Steve Austin to share with us about his own suicide attempt and his journey back ┬áto life. The result was a powerful 30 minute conversation that […]