The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 13: Dispersing Fear with Love

And now, for something completely different… In this solo episode, Jason discusses the high price of living out of fear, transitioning to a life centered on love, what Jesus meant when He talked about “hell”, and more. Jason Elam is a former pastor, aspiring author, and podcaster. He is Brandi’s grateful husband and proud dad […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 12: Finding My Voice with Hannah Johnson

In this episode we talk to worship leader, blogger, and social work student, Hannah Johnson, about her faith journey as a preacher’s kid, life in the fishbowl, how going to ministry school at one of the fastest growing churches in America turned out differently than she had expected, and how she started to discover her […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 11: Love Heretic with Wendy Francisco

Our guest on this episode is the wonderfully transparent Wendy Francisco. As a singer and songwriter, Wendy has traveled the world performing concerts and, for many years, was very much a part of American evangelical culture. As she began to question long-held beliefs, she shared what she was learning and a community grew around her […]

June 2019 Update

Hello, friends! Before I say anything else, I want to say thank you so much for all of your support and encouragement! Your love and belief that I have something to add to the world keeps me going. I am so grateful for each one of you! As many of you already know, the no […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 07: The Subversive Power of Loving Our Enemies with Andrew Parks

In this episode, we talk with writer and theologian Andrew Parks about his journey of faith, loss, and the subversive power of Jesus’ call to love our enemies. You can follow Andrew on Facebook and Twitter.

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 06: A Faith Worth Keeping with Brad Jersak

In this episode, I talk to author, theologian, and patristic scholar, Brad Jersak about hearing God, inner healing, a more beautiful gospel, the afterlife, finding community post deconstruction, areas where he struggles with Orthodox Church practice, and several books that he is currently working on-including a short story with “The Shack” author, William Paul Young. […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 05:Understanding Mimetic Theory with Matthew J. Distefano

In this episode of the podcast, we explore Rene’ Girard’s paradigm shifting mimetic theory with author and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano. I asked Matthew to give us a very high level view for people, like me, who have struggled to grasp the concept and its’ implications in our life. We also get in to the […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 04: Reconstructing Evangelicalism with Beau Hoffman

In this episode, I talk to friend and fellow spiritual seeker Beau Hoffman about navigating the shifting sands of deconstruction, following Jesus into reconstruction, and what it means to be evangelical today. Beau is a voice worth following on social media. You can find him on Facebook and Instagram.

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 03: From Inerrancy to Inspiration with Keith Giles

In Episode 03, we welcome back our first ever repeat guest, Jesus Unbound author Keith Giles, to discuss the journey from belief in the Bible as the inerrant Word of God to a belief that Jesus of Nazareth is the one and only Word of God. What does that mean for our faith? Where did […]

The Messy Spirituality Podcast-Episode 02: Living for a Living with Jamal Jivanjee

In this episode, we speak with author, podcaster, and life coach, Jamal Jivanjee, about moving from an economy of scarcity to an economy of love and service. We’re excited for you to listen to this episode and would love to read your thoughts in the comments below. Jamal’s latest book is Living for a Living. […]